Td5 won't fire

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ruaritreble

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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2013, 09:45:19 AM »
Cheers - that's the bits.

Tank is now out of the car. Plan of attack is new pump and then the filter, cross the fingers and hope it starts.
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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2013, 08:58:53 PM »
Came across this might be of interest

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=73065

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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2013, 08:54:24 PM »
Hi Ruari, if you still have a starting problem after all this I would try your injector 0-rings. I have found that once you have gone over 100,000 miles they can fail. Its not expensive and easy to do. Do them one at a time and don't mix up the injectors.
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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2013, 09:32:55 PM »
Interesting reading about the starter motor arcing inside which mixes up the ecu signal to injectors - so maybe worth bump starting to eliminate that problem.
Hopefully monday will see the fuel tank back in.

I wouldn't have expected the injector seals to be a problem as it was driving fine and next it just wouldn't start.

Starting to miss it now. As much as i'm loving the other landy its just not suitable for commuting.
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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2014, 10:30:05 AM »
I must of done something really bad for this to be messing with my karma.

Still not running. Sounds to me like no fuel. This is either caused by air in the system or electrickery.

So far to date:
Cranksensor
Fuel pump
Fuel filter
Air bleed vlave
Injector washers & seals
2nd hand injector (x1) & rocker rail
Injector loom
Rocker seal

These have all been replaced.
Battery charged, several times
Fuel system purged several times
Tow start
Power is to the Ecu
Ecu tested OK by AliveTuning
No faults on nanaocom other than ABS & Aircon
Ecu reads not immobilised.

Still dosen't even try to fire.

My thoughts are change filter head, replace filter gauze at fuel regulator. Remove pipes from fuel regulator to make sure all air is removed.
Electric wise, check voltage at crank sensor replace starter motor. And then it's continuity checks of loom / replace.

Is there anything I'm missing?
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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2014, 01:49:37 PM »
Did you reprogram the "new" injector into the ECM?

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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2014, 04:53:34 PM »
have you checked there isnt a bent pin inside the injector loom plug at the head side been there done that b4

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ruaritreble

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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2014, 08:50:31 PM »
The pins all seem to be good.
Replacment injector has been coded.

When cranking the engine, rpm on nanocom reads 0. Is this normal?
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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2014, 09:07:53 PM »
Is it worth getting a compression tested done, even though I think you can only test 4 cylinders. This may not be any help

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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2014, 09:33:22 AM »
I'm going to try the starter motor and then test a few wires before we go down compression test route.
5 cylinder engine with only 4 glow plugs.
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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2014, 10:02:31 AM »
Did you run the bleed cycle correctly after having the fuel system apart?
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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2014, 09:36:24 AM »
Bearmach fuel filter was filled before refitting.
Bleed process used of turning ignition key to pos.2 once pump stops press throttle pedal 5 times and pump runs a purge cycle. This has been repeated many times and last of all a tow start or tow non-start.
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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2014, 06:22:21 PM »
have you tried fitting a different starter motor?

i would expect the engine rpm to read something whilst cranking over
Started out with nothing,
Still have most of it left

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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2014, 09:38:15 AM »
New starter went on last night. Still no joy  :'(
However I did notice what may be a diesel leak from regulator. Not evident when looking from top of engine but once removed the starter the pipes above were damp. Maybe explains why I thought there was an oil leak on the sump.
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Re: Td5 won't fire
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2014, 09:57:14 AM »
i had this with a van not to long ago the common rail had depressurised quick squirt of easy start and away it went .
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